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"content": " Mr. Mungatana, once we get the HANSARD on this, we need to be a bit stricter regarding Ministers who undertake to issue statements on particular dates and those statements are not delivered. So, I want to use the schedule to know which statement is due today. If any others were due today and they are not on schedule, then you better consult the Clerk, so that we can get things working properly. Was there another one expected today that is not on the schedule of Ministerial Statements of today?"
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"content": "Yes, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir. Yesterday, you issued direction that the Leader of Government Business issues a solution regarding the status of Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs."
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"content": " So, Mr. Ojode, that is the only Statement due! Mr. Vice-President, as the Leader of Government Business, you may make that statement."
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"content": " Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, thank you and I wish to make the following Statement: As hon. Members will be aware, the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs has experienced operational difficulties dating way back to February this year. Many attempts have been made to resolve the problems and diverse parties have been involved for over a very long time and whose efforts were meant to bring normalization of the business of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs. The issue has remained a key matter for consideration during the Sittings of the House Business Committee (HBC) since April this year when it was first brought to its attention. This situation has obviously taken inadvertently long to resolve and has clearly adversely affected the ability of the Committee to consider Bills, vetting of appointments and other legislative business. Moreover, the standoff has prevented the House from benefiting from the capacity, experience and a lot from this very important Committee, especially in matters related to the implementation of our Constitution. During the Sitting held on Tuesday, 22nd November, 2011, the HBC was informed that the joint Government chief whips were having consultation on how to resolve the matter and they were making commendable progress and that they were to report the outcome of those consultations during the HBC Sitting of yesterday, Tuesday 29th November, 2011. Indeed, during our Sitting yesterday and you are a witness to this, the two Whips informed the Committee that after wide consultations, it had been decided that in order to bring normalcy to the operations of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, and aware that the composition of the Committee was a matter that had been arrived at in line with the spirit of the Coalition obtaining in our Parliament at the time, the Committee will remain as currently constituted in terms of its membership. The Committee noted with satisfaction the results of the consultation that had been held by the whips and based on the report of the whips, the HBC resolved to adopt an agreement reached by the whips in order to maintain the status quo in the membership of this very important Committee as follows:- The hon. Ababu Namwamba, MP The hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona, MP The hon. Isaac K. Ruto, MP The hon. Olago Aluoch, MP The hon. Sophia Abdi Noor, MP The hon. Amina Abdalla, MP The hon. Mutava Musyimi, MP The hon. Mohamed Abdikadir, MP The hon. Eugene Wamalwa, MP The hon. George Nyamweya, MP The hon. Njoroge Baiya, MP The Committee will be facilitated to expeditiously deliberate on the business falling within its purview in order to facilitate the implementation of the Constitution. In addition, the whips will have a consultative meeting with all the Members of this Committee tomorrow, Thursday 1st December, 2011. I wish to urge Members of the Committee to put aside their past differences, build mutual trust and create a conducive working environment in the interest of the people of this great nation. Thank you!"
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am very surprised by this Statement from the Leader of Government Business. Under which order or powers does he force members who have actually resigned by writing letters to continue being members of this very important Committee? It is in public knowledge that Messrs Wamalwa and Namwamba have, in fact, resigned from that Committee. How does he want the Committee to function when we know that these hon. Members have resigned? Can he really force a Member of Parliament to do something if he does not want? Again, is he helping the House because we still need people to be vetted? I need a clarification on this."
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"content": " Mr. Vice-President, let us listen to the other points of order and then you can respond."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, just like my learned friend, Mr. Mungatana, I am also surprised at this turn of events. As far as the House is concerned, the ODM as a party has withdrawn its membership from this Committee. To that extent, therefore, this Committee does not exist anymore. As things are now, it does not exist. It is illegal. What needs to be done would be for the names to be brought by way of a Motion to this House. To do that, we would have to comply very strictly with Standing Order No.160 as read together with Articles 1, 2, 4(2), 10, 94(4) and 124 of the Constitution. Basically, the sections talk of procedure of nomination of Members to House Committees, looking at the strength each party. It is, therefore, not right that the Leader of Government Business should purport to reconstitute this Committee the way they have tried to do. That is not right. I kindly urge you not to accept the list that has purported been brought to the House this afternoon, so that the Leader of Government Business goes back to the HBC, consults again properly and widely as was said by Mr. Kimunya last time and then brings the names, according to Standing Orders."
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