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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, although I agree with the Vice- President because he has made a statement of fact, the Committee is in existence only to the extent that if there is any hon. Member who has written a resignation letter and signed, that Member should immediately be replaced according to Standing Order No.169. It says such member should be replaced within seven days upon leaving the seat. Maybe, we need an apology from the HBC for not having replaced those people within seven days after they resigned. I also want to correct an impression created that there was any mistrust amongst the Members of the Committee. There was never any mistrust! We simply moved a vote of no confidence in our Chairman according to the Standing Orders and we simply expected to proceed. Nevertheless, we are willing to let bygone be bygones and proceed with the important business of the House. I want to concur with the Vice-President and we should then be immediately facilitated to proceed."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, you are on record as having told us that if this matter will not look like it was moving forward, you will make a ruling. Having listened to the points of order and, especially the one by Mr. Olago, the time for you to make that ruling is now. He is not only a Member of this House, but he is also a Member of the ODM. He is also one of the Members who have been recommended by his party and he is saying that he is not aware. He says that he has not been consulted. That means that we are taking this House back to where it was those many months ago at the beginning when we could not have the Committee functioning. This being the case, let us accept that the Chief Whips are unable to do sufficient consultations, that the HBC has done its best. I urge the Chair to make its decision. If necessary, we will then ventilate on your decision. I invite you!"
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would also like to acknowledge or appreciate the move by the HBC with regard to getting back to life this Committee. The only concern that I have is that the HBC should ensure that Standing Orders are clearly followed. I am not aware of any rule under the Standing Orders pursuant to which a political party having appointed its own members can withdraw them"
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"content": "There is no Standing Order saying so. The only issue that would arise is for Members who have actually resigned in writing. As far as I am aware, it is only one Member who has done so in writing and left. We will, therefore, also ask that the HBC ensures that as per the Standing Order No.176, the Member who has resigned in writing is replaced as soon as possible. Otherwise, there has been no disagreement as such within the Committee. It is Parliament itself through the HBC that literally paralyzed this Committee by depriving it even the secretariat services."
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"content": " Before the Vice-President responds, I would like to hear what the two Joint Whips are saying with regard to the issues that have been raised."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, first of all, I want to thank the HBC for assisting us. The issue on the Floor of the House was exhaustively discussed. We came to an agreement, my co-whip and I, that the Committee should be reinstated and allowed to work as it was without replacing a name or making judgment. As to the letters that were written by some Members to say that they resigned, the HBC has come to a conclusion that we will not discuss those letters. The Committee should get back, sit down and deliberate on their business. Indeed, if there will be one Member who will not be interested to serve in that Committee, it is up to the Chairman or Vice- Chairman to inform the HBC that, that person is not willing to serve in that Committee. That is the agreement reached! We should be given credit! This has been an outstanding issue for a very long time. It has turned out to be extremely difficult to resolve it but we have come up with a solution. There is a way forward and it is up to the Committee now to take the challenge, sit down and do their business. If there are problems, they should come back to us and we will be more than willing to deal with it. We have also had to get involved to bring these warring teams together. If there are difficulties, we will solve them. This is the way forward, but there are no difficulties."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to agree with my co- whip that after months and months of deliberations on this issue, we felt that it is only fair to the country to move forward. As I walked in, Mr. Baiya was submitting on the Floor something which I thought is not what we are trying to do. It is important to say, so that we know. What we have done, in summary, is to say that this Committee needs to sit down and work as it were. Therefore, to suggest that one Member resigned or one is not there, that is not my understanding and I will be disagreeing, but I do not wish to prolong this matter. If we are going to have this Committee as it was, it means the Committee – these are adults who understand issues facing this country - needs to sit down under the Chairmanship of one Ababu Namwamba. That is what status quo means! If it means something else, I will not be part of that but we want, wish and hope that this Committee and the individual Members rise above squabbles and guide this country for the remainder of our term and, especially with regard to the implementation of the new Constitution. But what we said and that is in the minutes of the HBC, that needs to be the"
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"content": "of the Committee. It important to note that even the said letter or any other letter were written in squabbles. There were many letters written and even Mr. Olago and Mrs. Odhiambo-Mabona wrote to me. They all said that they are not Members of that Committee. So, we are not solving anything if what I have heard Mr. Baiya trying to intimate is what they think because that way we will end up where we started. So, I wish that they can find it in their heart and know that they are not the only Members in this Parliament. This country is looking for leadership and they could help us so that we lessen the work of the sister Committee led by Mr. Abdikadir. Thank you!"
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