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            "content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I would like to bring to the attention of the Minister the fact that this amendment is for this Bill and not the Survey Act. In the land services, unless a survey is done, the engineers cannot even design anything. The big problem that we have been having is that our Curriculum Vitaes (CVs) are gotten by the engineers who are doing the work, but when the work is brought on the desk, they give other people. They do not even use your CV because they are not enforcing--- So, this amendment belongs to this Bill because in the Survey Act, no unqualified person can submit work."
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            "speaker_name": "Dr. Laboso",
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            "content": " When you say “we” you should declare your interest. Are you a surveyor?"
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            "content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I am a licensed land surveyor."
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            "content": " Okay! Thank you. Your point has been made. Remember this is a debating Chamber!"
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            "content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I have listened very keenly both from the Minister and the surveyors, who are our colleagues here. If at all it has core written value to this Bill, I do not think that it will take anything away. Therefore, I think this amendment should be supported."
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            "content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, this matter was discussed at length during our Committee meetings. We even had the Minister and the engineers. We all agreed that this amendment is very necessary to ensure that when engineers recruit or contract the services of land surveyors, they must ensure that they are contracting qualified and registered land surveyors."
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            "content": "(Question, that the words to be inserted be inserted, put and agreed to)"
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            "content": " There is a further amendment by Eng. Gumbo!"
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            "content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I beg to move:- THAT, Clause 44 be amended by— (a) numbering the existing provision as sub-clause (1) (b) inserting the following new sub-clause immediately after the renumbered sub-clause (1)— “(2) A person who commits an offence under this section shall, after due process, be deregistered, or be suspended and have his name removed from the Register for such period as the Board may determine.”"
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