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            "speaker_name": "Mr. Bett",
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            "content": " Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, you have heard the hon. Member say that I have reservations on part (d) of his amendment. We discussed and agreed that we leave it out. I have just seen it back on the Order Paper."
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            "content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, these regulations could be administrative issues. I was pleading with the hon. Member that such regulations need not be brought to the House. They could be minor administrative rules detailing issues of management. That is why I was saying that they need not be brought to Parliament."
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            "content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I would not want to engage the Minister in a protracted debate on this matter, but I would request his gentleman’s understanding that when regulations concerning fees charged by engineers are prepared, he should make sure that we are not starved as professionals in this country."
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            "content": " Eng. Gumbo, are you, therefore, withdrawing part (d) of your amendment?"
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            "content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I withdraw, subject to him giving us good fees."
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            "content": " Eng. Gumbo, hon. Bett is not going to be the Minister for Roads forever. This is a law for posterity."
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            "content": " Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, this is already taken care of in the management of the Board itself. So, the Board will take care of it."
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            "content": "(Parts (b) and (d) of the amendment by Eng. Gumbo withdrawn)"
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            "content": "(Question, that the words to be inserted be inserted, put and agreed to)"
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