{"id":1024173,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1024173/?format=json","text_counter":263,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Kabondo Kasipul, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Ms.) Eve Obara","speaker":{"id":13352,"legal_name":"Eve Akinyi Obara","slug":"eve-akinyi-obara"},"content":" On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. There is confusion and we need to be clear on what we are talking about. I have heard Members talking about defined contribution yet, I believe what we have here is defined benefit. So, I am calling upon the Chair or Mover to clarify because I believe it is defined benefit and not contributory. So, can we be very clear on what we are talking about. Am I clear? If you look at the Amendment Bill you can clearly see there is a formula being used and the benefit is defined at the end, as what you are going to get."}