{"id":1043187,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1043187/?format=json","text_counter":159,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Orengo","speaker_title":"The Senate Minority Leader","speaker":{"id":129,"legal_name":"Aggrey James Orengo","slug":"james-orengo"},"content":"Mr. Speaker, Sir, there was a very hearty conversation that was going on. I am not trying to go back to what you had ruled. However, sometimes I think we are too sensitive as a House. Little banter here and there sometimes is good. When you come in a House like this, if we just talk like we are in a debating club and the rules are so tight, sitting here the whole afternoon would be very difficult. I remember there used to be two Prime Ministers in the United Kingdom, Gladstone and the first Jew to become a Prime Minister in the United Kingdom. When Gladstone used to talk to Queen Victoria, he would go there and talk to her as if he was addressing a rally. However, the other Prime Minister whose name I forget - he even wrote a book about the two nations - used to joke around with the Queen. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."}