{"id":1129058,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1129058/?format=json","text_counter":453,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Lari, JP","speaker_title":"Hon. Jonah Mwangi","speaker":{"id":13405,"legal_name":"Jonah Mburu Mwangi","slug":"jonah-mburu-mwangi"},"content":" Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. On the onset, I want to support the Bill, but disagree with Hon. Osotsi in a few areas. The first area is that an engineer is called an engineer after the first degree. One becomes an engineer at an undergraduate degree. All those other degrees like a master’s degree are enhancement degrees for management. You can do a master’s degree in accounting and in finance to enhance management skills. You can do a master’s degree in strategic management. When you become a DG, you also want that engineering aspect plus institution management concepts. So, to be clear, the first degree must be a civil engineering degree."}