{"id":1210950,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1210950/?format=json","text_counter":344,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Kathuri","speaker_title":"The Deputy Speaker","speaker":{"id":13590,"legal_name":"Murungi Kathuri","slug":"murungi-kathuri"},"content":" Sen. Cherarkey, to defend this seat that I am sitting on, the Speaker has no vote. When you are told kata, it is not the Speaker who does the ‘ kataring’ . It is the House that makes the decision because the Speaker always puts question whether the Members allow two minutes or five minutes. Next time you should mobilize these normal low-ranking Members to refuse that decision. I can see that there is no other Senator interested. I want to determine that this matter does not affect counties so that we do not contravene Standing Order No. 84(2) and then I put the question."}