{"id":132409,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/132409/?format=json","text_counter":498,"type":"other","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, to jump from 0.69 per cent to 4 per cent which is the equitable ratio of livestock, you need a reinvention of the Treasury. You need those people, not just to think outside the box like I said the other day here, but to borrow a term common in science called “metamorphosis”. This is a process in which a very ugly caterpillar is transformed into a beautiful butterfly which can fly and do other things. As I stand now, this caterpillar is taking us nowhere."}