{"id":1339195,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1339195/?format=json","text_counter":436,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Seme, ODM","speaker_title":"Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal","speaker":null,"content":"We also have to be very careful not to say that the penalty of Ksh10 million was too high. If we completely remove it, those who were worried will breathe a sigh of relief. Perhaps it should have been reduced, but not completely removed. The emerging trend is that we are becoming more lenient on corruption, which is not good. I will allow Members to vote in whichever way."}