{"id":1371185,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1371185/?format=json","text_counter":178,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":170,"legal_name":"Bonny Khalwale","slug":"bonny-khalwale"},"content":"Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Senator of Kiambu County is quite right that I should finish the statement. When I was talking about the cartels, I was not talking about the cartels from the point of lamenting that they are cartels or from a point of acknowledgement that they are cartels, it was from a point of science that we have to break the chain. With all due respect, I mean well. Colleagues create time and go to Cooperative University of Kenya. It is something. If the Nordic countries saw how successful we were, I am afraid the distinguished Sen. Orwoba, probably was in the kindergarten. So, she does not know those glory days."}