{"id":1388375,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1388375/?format=json","text_counter":1125,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Ndegwa Njiru","speaker_title":"The Counsel for the County Assembly","speaker":null,"content":" I put it to you that there is a difference between the statement ‘to pay’ and ‘to refund.’ Therefore, because you have preserved English for us, the lawyers, I put it to you that the two words have different meanings. Yes?"}