{"id":1388377,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1388377/?format=json","text_counter":1127,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Ndegwa Njiru","speaker_title":"The Counsel for the County Assembly","speaker":null,"content":" I, therefore, put it to you that paying is different from refunding."}