{"id":1389283,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1389283/?format=json","text_counter":624,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Katwa Kigen","speaker_title":"The Counsel for the Deputy Governor","speaker":null,"content":" That was the first time you realised, kumbe that transaction was not done through M-pesa to M-pesa, it was actually bank to bank transfer to Dr. Monda's account. Is it not so? Was there any time you knew your money was at a co-operative bank? Let me put it this way. Did you at any time deposit money at a co-operative bank account of your father and mother?"}