{"id":1407229,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1407229/?format=json","text_counter":153,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Speaker","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Senior Counsel, I understood it differently. I thought he was speaking about it in the negative. That we cannot pick a gossip column and use it as evidence against anybody. As a matter of fact, I understood that a gossip column cannot be a statement of fact and that no Member has extorted anybody unless there is evidence. As far as I understand, you are saying the same thing."}