{"id":15378,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/15378/?format=json","text_counter":371,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Mudavadi","speaker_title":"The Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Local Government","speaker":{"id":84,"legal_name":"Wycliffe Musalia Mudavadi","slug":"musalia-mudavadi"},"content":"Mr. Speaker Sir, I want to categorically state at this stage that, and this is what hon. Odhiambo-Mabona said, at this stage you cannot categorically say that there is fraud or no fraud. I think that can come out specifically on the basis of an audit report. So, once we go into the details of the 14 expenditure items that I have mentioned, then we will be able to verify whether there was fraud or whether it is an accounting or entry issue that needs to be rectified."}