{"id":1545188,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1545188/?format=json","text_counter":238,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Oketch Gicheru","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Sen. Methu is trying to be adverse in his conversation. I do not have a problem with him pinpointing the projects that have been launched here and there. However, this needs a substantive discussion because it is not relevant to the debt management strategy. Most importantly, he mentioned numbers and projects that are being launched, not in my area, but I have an interest in that conversation. Nevertheless, the Standing Orders require a substantive Motion. Therefore, I wish that you would rule him out of order until he brings a substantive Motion to this conversation. I thank you."}