{"id":155560,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/155560/?format=json","text_counter":487,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Michuki","speaker_title":"The Minister for Environment and Mineral Resources","speaker":{"id":183,"legal_name":"John Njoroge Michuki","slug":"john-michuki"},"content":" Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I understand all that but I am trying to point out that where a programme has been developed by a particular information technology group, they would rather withdraw their system all together than have it subjected to the examination of their rivals. I am sure those hon. Members who are in that business know what I am"}