{"id":166505,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/166505/?format=json","text_counter":296,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Kamama","speaker_title":"The Assistant Minister for Higher Education, Science and Technology","speaker":{"id":165,"legal_name":"Asman Abongutum Kamama","slug":"asman-kamama"},"content":"Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, when we expect the same judges who have been there for 30 years to vet themselves or to be in charge of the judiciary, I do not think we are going anywhere. I will support it maybe if it is brought as a Government business. However, in my heart, we need a clean judiciary system. We do not want people who have been there for many years. You live in a house for many ages and think you will change anything. You cannot change anything. We need a new dispensation. We need Kenyans to see this in words and deed."}