{"id":167804,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/167804/?format=json","text_counter":621,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Michuki","speaker_title":"The Minister for Environment and Mineral Resources","speaker":{"id":183,"legal_name":"John Njoroge Michuki","slug":"john-michuki"},"content":" Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, we have a substantive matter here. Are you going to allow us to engage in semantics at the expense of this debate? That is taking it very lightly as if it was not important."}