{"id":168027,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/168027/?format=json","text_counter":105,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Dr. Oburu","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":194,"legal_name":"Oburu Ngona Odinga","slug":"oburu-odinga"},"content":"Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the whole saga could not have happened if there was no conspiracy between the employees of the bank, the employees of the KPC and the businessman himself. So, definitely, there was conspiracy. This does not mean that the bank, as an institution, was involved. But the bank has a right to investigate. If, internally, it finds anybody culpable, it deals with him. I am not aware of any managers who have been sacked by the banks."}