{"id":201055,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/201055/?format=json","text_counter":91,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Ms. Karua","speaker_title":"The Minister for Justice and Constitutional Affairs","speaker":{"id":166,"legal_name":"Martha Wangari Karua","slug":"martha-karua"},"content":" Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to seek your clarification. When an hon. Member stands and makes a categorical statement--- I am not contesting your ruling. Indeed, what you have said is correct; that hon. Members must have a Substantive Motion in order to mention the names of other hon. Members adversely. If an hon. Member stands and makes a categorical statement about another hon. Member on a matter that could amount to an infringement of the working of the House, is it a matter that ought to be referred to the Committee of Powers and Privileges? How can we deal with a matter like that so that tomorrow an hon. Member does not stand and make a categorical assertion which then we believe - because I must say I was in the House - and then withdraw after dropping the bombshell?"}