{"id":203023,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/203023/?format=json","text_counter":403,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Dr. Kulundu","speaker_title":"The Minister for Labour and Human Resource Development","speaker":{"id":295,"legal_name":"Newton Wanjala Kulundu","slug":"newton-kulundu"},"content":" Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, on the basis of the passion shown by Mr. Sungu, let me start with his question. What he is talking about is not measurable; it is subjective. \"Good and moral standing\" may mean something very different from what Mr. Sungu and what Ms. Karua understand them to mean. So, we must have tangible and measurable qualities."}