{"id":21205,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/21205/?format=json","text_counter":374,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Kajwang","speaker_title":"The Minister of State for Immigration and Registration of Persons","speaker":{"id":164,"legal_name":"Gerald Otieno Kajwang","slug":"otieno-kajwang"},"content":" Madam Temporary Deputy Chair, actually we were suggesting that where the Minister or Cabinet Secretary has refused and you feel aggrieved - and there are many cases when we refuse – that person can very well go to court. But in other jurisdictions, and because there are many such cases--- There are many people who want to work in this country or pass through this country. It would clog the courts. That is why we are suggesting a sieving mechanism. He is not actually interfering with the Minister. The Minister will have made a decision. But before somebody goes to court, we thought that this would be straightforward, quick and they would deal with it in a very summary manner. It is not a large organization. There are just about three people and they are not full time. They will deal with the matter only when there is work to be done. I thought it would really help so that somebody has--- Only the other day, Mr. Imanyara put me to task here on why I had to refuse somebody a right to stay. If they had this window, probably they would have gone to this tribunal without having to go to court. That is because the court system is a very expensive and complex affair. I thought it was good, but I leave it to the House."}