{"id":232339,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/232339/?format=json","text_counter":195,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Ethuro","speaker_title":"The Assistant Minister for Planning and National Development","speaker":{"id":158,"legal_name":"Ekwee David Ethuro","slug":"ekwee-ethuro"},"content":" On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir. I do not seem to understand the Minister as you have actually expressed yourself. The Minister is talking of a prima facie case while we are still on Clause 4. I thought that issue came in Clause 2."}