{"id":24577,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/24577/?format=json","text_counter":606,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. M. Kilonzo","speaker_title":"The Minister for Justice, National Cohesions and Constitutional Affairs","speaker":{"id":47,"legal_name":"Mutula Kilonzo","slug":"mutula-kilonzo"},"content":" Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, again, if anybody here were to sit in my office and see the problems that have been caused by this electoral fraud-- It is fraud to register twice. It is also fraud to aid and assist. Normally, what happens is that you find a politician loading his tribesmen or his clansmen into a van and drives them from station to station registering one twice. The damage that this has caused to this country is enormous. This aiding here is not just giving somebody a lift. If you will use your canter to transport people from one polling station to another to register, then you deserve not just Kshs100,000, but a fine of Kshs1 million. This has caused us enormous damage. I want to persuade the Committee to withdraw Subclause (b)."}