{"id":278709,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/278709/?format=json","text_counter":866,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Ms. Karua","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":166,"legal_name":"Martha Wangari Karua","slug":"martha-karua"},"content":"Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I am just thinking aloud. We read Article 62 of the Constitution. There is some land even at the county level which belongs to the national government – they hold it in trust; so, I am seeing a situation where the Land Management Board has to consult both even at the county level. This consultation and co-operation mean that we have to realign our minds to the reality of the next dispensation that nobody can, on their own make a decision to the exclusion of others. I am seeing that it is necessary to retain those words as they are."}