{"id":278747,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/278747/?format=json","text_counter":904,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Ruto","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"I can see in sub-clause “b” there is one and then there is two, I was only on 2(b). So, I do not know whether I am in order to go to 2(b). I have issues with 2(b) which says: “A physical planner or a surveyor who shall be nominated by the county executive member and appointed by the Governor and who shall be an ex-officio member”. My understanding of ex-officio members is that they are members by occupation of an office. Then how do you appoint and then again they are ex-officio members? I thought it should be neater to simply say that the surveyor and the physical planner would be members. But when you start saying “ex-officio again and they have been appointed by the Governor, what is the need for these appointments?"}