{"id":285114,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/285114/?format=json","text_counter":621,"type":"other","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"(Prof. Saitoti): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, my own response to that question is simple; you can have somebody who is a Permanent Secretary but may not have the required experience for, leave alone a DC even a DO, because this is a special job."}