{"id":299176,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/299176/?format=json","text_counter":909,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Ogindo","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":120,"legal_name":"Martin Otieno Ogindo","slug":"martin-ogindo"},"content":"Madam Temporary Chairlady, it was a little controversial at the Committee level but we agreed that the two levels of government are inter-dependent and that is where the Minister says that you may have a situation whereby all the experienced staff are seconded there and there is a need to have them at the national level. So we were creating that window."}