{"id":299749,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/299749/?format=json","text_counter":1482,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Shakeel","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":140,"legal_name":"Ahmed Shakeel Shabbir Ahmed","slug":"shakeel-shabbir"},"content":"Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, while in the Joint Committee meeting, I raised this concern because I felt that the penalties must be severe. Otherwise, they are not necessary. A fine of Kshs2 million is very little when you are messing around with a county treasury. Therefore, I oppose this particular amendment."}