{"id":335655,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/335655/?format=json","text_counter":526,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Wambugu","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":149,"legal_name":"Clement Muchiri Wambugu","slug":"clement-wambugu"},"content":"Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, then I would propose that it reads: “To a fine of 5 million Kenya Shillings or 10 million Kenya Shillings and a sentence of imprisonment of either five years or whatever number of years or both fine and imprisonment.” But we need to have a fixed figure because if we leave it open---"}