{"id":338562,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/338562/?format=json","text_counter":467,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Mututho","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":97,"legal_name":"John Michael Njenga Mututho","slug":"john-mututho"},"content":"Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I stand guided. My friend, hon. Ruto, made a very valid point that there is interdependence. The interdependence can only be expressed in legal terms. There must be a link legally through the policies. The use of a policy terminates at a point when you do a law. A policy translates into a law and then that is effected. If the policies have been drawn by the national Government---"}