{"id":347728,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/347728/?format=json","text_counter":538,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Eng. Gumbo","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":24,"legal_name":"Nicholas Gumbo","slug":"nicholas-gumbo"},"content":"Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, it is still both. What I am trying to say is that we had carried it in an earlier amendment to Clause 5. So, unless we reopen Clause 5 it will be a contradiction."}