{"id":371381,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/371381/?format=json","text_counter":446,"type":"other","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"Therefore, the matter before us, really, is not a matter for us to debate. It is a matter for us to implement. As a House, we are not going to watch as people steal from the public. To that extent, I am sure that all of us will support this Motion. The issue of who stole what and when should come to end, so that we can start a new chapter. We will deal with those issues when they came up. I feel very sad that during Moi’s regime, every time I watched television, the news was about Kamlesh Pattni and Goldenberg. When we transited to Kibaki’s time, the news in the Kenyan media was dominated by Kamlesh Pattni and Goldenberg. There was a Commission which was---"}