{"id":380426,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/380426/?format=json","text_counter":212,"type":"other","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"with us and the perception that we have. Some Members here were Ministers and were challenged by my friend, Prof. “Lepokua” or something like that, that they were unable to---"}