{"id":413985,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/413985/?format=json","text_counter":948,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Kajwang’","speaker_title":"The Temporary Deputy Chairman","speaker":{"id":2712,"legal_name":"Tom Joseph Kajwang'","slug":"kajwang-tom-joseph-francis"},"content":" Yes, but that has to mature enough, or it has to crystallize enough to be an offence in the commonwealth jurisdiction. At least, with regard to the jurisdictions that we are aware of none is punishable by payment of cows."}