{"id":43478,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/43478/?format=json","text_counter":679,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Ms. Karua","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":166,"legal_name":"Martha Wangari Karua","slug":"martha-karua"},"content":"Mr. Chairman, Sir, I want to oppose the amendment. I think it misunderstands something. The grounds for removal of the secretary do not suggest that a tribunal be formed. These are the grounds for the commissioners in the Constitution. It is necessary that we have specific grounds upon which we can remove a secretary. You do not want a shaky secretary who is tip-toeing because he is doing the work at the pleasure of the commissioners. Let there be a legal mechanism that must be satisfied before anybody casts a stone on him. But the threshold is lesser than a constitutional commission where you form a tribunal. I think this is the way to go, spelling out clearly when a person may be removed."}