{"id":43549,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/43549/?format=json","text_counter":750,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Ms. Karua","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":166,"legal_name":"Martha Wangari Karua","slug":"martha-karua"},"content":"Mr. Chairman, Sir, I just want to persuade my colleague, hon. Konchella, to withdraw the amendment. What happens is that even when Commissions are independent, there has to be a meeting point where people balance the national needs because the envelope is one. I do not think that this will undermine the Commission in any way. But it is necessary that there be a point where people meet, or Government agencies meet."}