{"id":441674,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/441674/?format=json","text_counter":386,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Sakaja","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":13131,"legal_name":"Johnson Arthur Sakaja","slug":"johnson-arthur-sakaja"},"content":"I am sure we have trained very many scientists and engineers. It is also very sad. Hon. (Eng.) Gumbo has told me that a Kenyan engineer at San Marco is earning less than a tenth of an Italian technician and yet, we walk proud that we are a free sovereign country. Is it apartheid, racism or plain stupidity on our part?"}