{"id":4488,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/4488/?format=json","text_counter":369,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Mr. Bett","speaker_title":"The Minister for Roads","speaker":{"id":157,"legal_name":"Franklin Kipng'etich Bett","slug":"franklin-bett"},"content":" Madam Temporary Deputy Chairlady, Clause 5(1)(a) is talking about the Minister not the Permanent Secretary. Clause 5(1)(b) is talking about the Permanent Secretary which is actually in order as amended on my---"}