{"id":450178,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/450178/?format=json","text_counter":38,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Kagwe","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":229,"legal_name":"Mutahi Kagwe","slug":"mutahi-kagwe"},"content":"On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I was a little bit at a loss and, perhaps, need your guidance on this one. Is it in order for a Mover and Seconder of a Bill to be operating on completely opposite sides? I would imagine that the person seconding the Bill is actually called a “seconder,” as Sen. Boni Khalwale would say. Under what circumstances then does the Mover and the seconder contract each other? I thought that you second to agree. When you second to disagree, is the Bill still on?"}