{"id":457664,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/457664/?format=json","text_counter":348,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. A.B. Duale","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":15,"legal_name":"Aden Bare Duale","slug":"aden-duale"},"content":"Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I am happy that the Chairperson has clarified that matter. What I was saying is that a lion would get out of the park and kill, say, 20 goats of a very poor family. The farmer or livestock keeper then kills the lion in defence of his livestock. I agree with the Committee, and we have no choice, that we must defend our wildlife and render punitive penalties to poachers. With regard to participation, I would like to tell my colleagues that the preparation of this Bill took a very long time. That is a fact, particularly for Government. However, God is great. The preparation of this Bill started in 2006. Now we have a Bill which after amendments we will have a good legislative framework for our country. As we debate this Bill, there is a Bill before Senate by a Private Member referred to as “G.G. Kariuki’s Bill”. The Speaker needs to consult his colleague in the Senate and ask whether this Bill from the Senate by Senator Kariuki is a duplication of this Bill or is negating the gains that we are going to make in this particular Bill. The House should be aware that there is a Bill in the Senate which has a lot of similarities with this particular one. I am sure the Speaker, after consultations with his colleague will give direction. I beg to support."}