{"id":491929,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/491929/?format=json","text_counter":217,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"The Senate Majority Leader","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":440,"legal_name":"Onesimus Kipchumba Murkomen","slug":"kipchumba-murkomen"},"content":"(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I want to ride on what Sen. Muthama has said. The Motion in Order No.8 is procedural and the one on Order No.9 is a substantive Motion on issues that are already raised in Order No.8. Would I be in order to request that we first deal with Order No.8 because it is a procedural Motion and then we debate Motion in Order No.9 so that we achieve as much as possible? I also wanted to clarify further that I see no prejudice subject to your direction in muting debate in Order No.8 because it is procedural. The substance issues there will be subsumed and discussed in Order No.9."}