{"id":507471,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/507471/?format=json","text_counter":434,"type":"other","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"blamed on the devolution or the Constitution which places the national security issues on the national Government as it ought. The national Government ought to be responsible for national security. What we are saying is that there is a place for the county governments to be involved in that process. What we heard in Mandera was that the Governor of Mandera who has been attacked twice, actually, informed the authorities that there have been serious incursions by Al Shabaab terrorists. However, that information was never acted upon. The Governor of Mandera, being the governor of the county, knew the security situation in Mandera. He was, therefore, bringing it to the attention of the authorities. It appears to me that there has to be a structured involvement of the county governments in this whole security system, so that we have one chain of command. There is also the issue of police and Administrative Police (APs). In most counties, the police side and the AP side are not seeing eye to eye. In fact, they are fighting, they are not sharing information and they act as enemies. When I wanted to start the AP station in my area, in fact, wananchi contributed money. We put up a station for the police, but I was denied to do so. When I sought out the permission, they came, they inspected and they saw that the police station actually met the standard of a police station. That station was built by wananchi themselves, but they said that they were refusing because that police station was very close to the AP station. Therefore, they could not be that close within a hundred metres. There are many issues which we have to address. That is why I support this Motion because it is putting together the Committee on National Security and Foreign Relations and the Standing Committee of Legal Affairs and Human Rights to investigate the circumstances under which the Mandera attack and Kapedo massacre occurred. We will be adding this one which occurred yesterday to establish whether there were failures in institutional command or operational structures that led to the attacks and to determine who is culpable for the increased incidences. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is the way to go. We may shout, change guards at the top as we have done, but nothing much will happen on the ground. I know hon. Maj-Gen. Nkaisserry and I agree with the sentiments of Sen. Haji because we have worked together and I wish him well. He is inheriting a very big task if he is approved to be appointed in that important position by the National Assembly, but he cannot act on his own. He has to do what we are now trying to do. He has to do what this Motion is telling us to do. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, as we endorse this Motion, I have heard that there are similar moves in the National Assembly to form a similar Committee to investigate these issues. The Motion is not yet before the National Assembly, but I have heard about it on radio. As we pass this Motion, I think we should be prepared because this is a national crisis. Parliament consists of both the National Assembly and the Senate. I believe that the Constitution gives us a very important mandate. The point I want to make is that this is now the time that the Senate and the National Assembly can have a joint Committee. Let us have a joint Committee with the same mandate. This is a national issue. It will be better for this country if Parliament as an institution is seen to be working together. In Europe, when we have a national emergency people work together. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."}