{"id":509891,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/509891/?format=json","text_counter":325,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. Ng’ongo","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":110,"legal_name":"John Mbadi Ng'ong'o","slug":"john-mbadi"},"content":"I am actually not debating the Bill, but our rules do not allow us to debate an unconstitutional Bill. How then would you determine that a Bill is unconstitutional without citing a few clauses in the Bill? This idea of people saying that you cannot debate the Bill, I am hearing it for the first time. Actually, I think it is informed by ignorance. A lot of times, and you can go through the HANSARD Reports - I urge the hon. Members who came in this Parliament recently to be reading HANSARD Reports. I think the problem is that we think we can learn without reading---"}