{"id":613612,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/613612/?format=json","text_counter":390,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"The Temporary Deputy Chairlady","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"You are not on the microphone. Hon. Members, let us not get into that debate. I will tell you why. You know how we make laws. Chris, you have made your point. That is why I considered Clause 17(a) on its own so that you make a decision on it separately. The amendment was agreed to. Now we move on to Clause 17 (b)."}