{"id":663462,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/663462/?format=json","text_counter":138,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Hon. (Eng.) Gumbo","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":24,"legal_name":"Nicholas Gumbo","slug":"nicholas-gumbo"},"content":"I wish my friend Eng. Muhamud was here. When we say that the Director-General should be a holder of a Civil Engineering Degree in this day and age, what are we really talking about? If you go to the University of Nairobi, you will find that a civil engineer can be a water engineer or a structural engineer. We need to be more specific. What about those who have chosen---"}