{"id":694622,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/694622/?format=json","text_counter":753,"type":"other","speaker_name":"","speaker_title":"","speaker":null,"content":"documents because of time. This happened last week. We are going to look at the returns from IFMIS and the IB information as well. So we are going to do quite a bit of work to authenticate the explanation that the County Executive is giving. I also use IFMIS and maybe at this stage I should answer the question on IFMIS. As I explained, the payment system for the Government is IFMIS, but when it comes to transmitting that payment, you use the IB. Therefore, as far as the payments are concerned, I am happy that the system is actually processing the transactions correctly. What happened in this case and it is happening because as I am trying to explain, I took my own expenditure report today morning when I was informed that I am appearing before the Senate. I checked with my accountant to know what happens to commitments that are processed for payment in IFMIS. She explained to me that immediately you process the payment in IFMIS, those commitments move from the commitments column to cumulative expenditure. However, if you do not complete the transaction by approving in IB, then those amounts remain as if you have paid. I hope I have tried to explain. When you then print your expenditure report, what was in commitment that you had already processed will appear as if you have paid, but you may not have paid for one reason or another. The explanation we were given by Nyeri County is that they did not have sufficient funds. Therefore, they could not complete the transaction. I hope I have explained on the issue of Kshs70 million. I hope Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale and Sen. Orengo are now satisfied that it is a question of how those two systems “talk” to each other. But it is good that we involve the technical teams before we can conclude whether we require synchronization or whether we require another interface. In terms of where we draw our mandate from to conciliate, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, with the permission of Mr. Speaker, Sir, is Article 252(1) (b). With your permission, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will read ---"}