{"id":716508,"url":"http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/716508/?format=json","text_counter":340,"type":"speech","speaker_name":"Sen. Mugo","speaker_title":"","speaker":{"id":85,"legal_name":"Beth Wambui Mugo","slug":"beth-mugo"},"content":"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me the opportunity to contribute to this Bill which I support. The other side keeps on repeating that Jubilee wants to revert back to manual. However, it has been clearly explained that a back-up does not mean reversing. It is only to make sure that everybody who has a right to vote, votes in case where a machine does not work. Looking at the internet, there are many instances of countries where this method has been used, but the machines did not work. The things they cite are very similar to here. They talk of dirty hands thus the print does not come through. We know that the rural folks come from the shamba and go straight to vote. It is the same thing for the mechanics and the mama mbogas who rush to vote. They will not have time to clean their fingers. There will, therefore, be a lot of rejection of the finger prints. Therefore, we will be denying a chance to the people who are meant to vote. Jubilee is supporting this Bill because if you are held responsible to run the country, you must also make sure elections are run properly. You do not want to hear that the elections have failed in the middle of the elections and then there will be more chaos than ever. In your houses, you have a lamp or a torch in case electricity fails. They say the temperature and rain are things that can make the machines to fail. I urge you that we look at this as a way of making sure that we have credible elections where nobody is shut out. It is also known that some people who fix those machines can do a small thing somewhere and ruin that machine when they are installing it. You cannot say that machines are 100 per cent effective. In the State of Virginia in April 2014, the Virginia Board of Elections voted to decertify voting machines used in over 30 counties. It cited security concerns. Edgardo who was in charge, Commissioner of the State Elections Department, said using the machines creates an acceptable risk to the integrity of the election process in the Commonwealth. You know the State of Virginia is referred to as Commonwealth. We just need to have integrity. You can rig with the machine or you can rig manually. I was being rigged out in 2007. My 15,000 votes had been removed. It is the High Court that declared me a winner after three days of goons from Kibera not allowing my votes to be counted. The court added the 15,000 votes. Yes the courts, because the matter went to court. I was a Member of the Government, who was rigging me out? You should not say that Jubilee rigs. It is not Jubilee or PNU, there are many---"}